tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post1316650583089853628..comments2023-08-05T10:10:14.345-04:00Comments on The Flamenco Chuckwagon: A Taste For The WindChuck Wagonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06418906274684022977noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-23947998315627310352009-04-21T21:51:00.000-04:002009-04-21T21:51:00.000-04:00yeah I don't really get that strategy either. It's...yeah I don't really get that strategy either. It's not like it's really that great to see your team mate win all the time, it's way better to win yourself. Just like you said, when you get in a break it increases your own chances of getting a good result and reduces the effort your team mates have to do in the pack. Why you would just sit in like a tool in a cat-4 race so your homeboy in the pack can get all the glory is totally retarded. And like you said, when there's a shark lurking in the pack, it's twice as pointless.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01298864352074991428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-157248950049702662009-04-21T14:47:00.000-04:002009-04-21T14:47:00.000-04:00Only one time I have sat on any break without work...Only one time I have sat on any break without working in the last two years, and that was when I had two teammates that had lapped the field. I was not going to let one of the other guys that lapped the field get off the front. Sitting on a break just makes sure it won't get away, it doesn't let you get away and feel fresh.<br /><br />Keep fighting. Eventually you'll be the guy that gets away in a Mabra 4 race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-47269949311483391522009-04-21T13:29:00.000-04:002009-04-21T13:29:00.000-04:00To point #1: it's sure looking that way.
To point...To point #1: it's sure looking that way.<br /><br />To point #2: if that's what you're looking for, then yes it is effective and yes it is annoying. Your 4s did that all last year from what I heard. Annoying but effective. There aren't any teams that have shown that organization or sprinting prowess this year, so I don't see the facility in that strategy. Unattached guys sitting on a break? Teams with 2 guys sitting on? What's the point? If a guy from a believable (key word there) sprinter's team is sitting on, you have a definable choice to make versus that scenario. That's about the only scenario I can see for sitting on, and there's no team that has put up sprinting performances to justify that strategy.Dave Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04475403509478977792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-20943693111594362662009-04-21T10:54:00.000-04:002009-04-21T10:54:00.000-04:00Win one race and you become a superstar, eh?? ;)
...Win one race and you become a superstar, eh?? ;)<br /><br />How about "covering moves" and not working at all in the break because you want it to come down to a sprint? Say you have 10 guys in a race, 4 of them are dedicated to the leadout of your 1 sprinter, and 5 of them are dedicated to make sure that nothing goes up the road at all (jumping to breaks and sitting on). Once you get your leadout train organized, you'd be unbeatable...especially in the undercategories (3/4/5). We need to work on ours, but it seems to be a pretty effective strategy (albeit a little anoying for other teams) for increasing the odds of a win.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09338247836970003993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-76957755290843935672009-04-21T10:47:00.000-04:002009-04-21T10:47:00.000-04:00For sure. DJ is a rocket. When he upgrades soon ...For sure. DJ is a rocket. When he upgrades soon (he will I am sure), and if he makes it to the finish in a 123 event he has a legit chance of winning. I hope that happens soon so I can trash talk all the 1's and 2's and say "ha ha!, you got beat by a 3!". I know he will have beat me too, but I have never seen a 3 win a 1,2,3 event and if anyone can do it, he is the guy.Chuck Hutchesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18054704262318135739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-36330164775384011122009-04-21T10:30:00.000-04:002009-04-21T10:30:00.000-04:00ps - I still make the point that the greatest thre...ps - I still make the point that the greatest threat to all MABRA 4 racers and teams at present is arriving to the line with DJ Brew in the mix. He also seems to ride sans team quite often. If I was his team mate and got in a good break, I'd definitely let the other guys know the advantage of having me with them. And then probably still work since I'm at my relative best when everyone's vision is fading to black.Dave Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04475403509478977792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-25319171261520980182009-04-21T10:23:00.000-04:002009-04-21T10:23:00.000-04:00Says the serial attacker. I'm with you. You were...Says the serial attacker. I'm with you. You were my argument in a discussion we had the other day if it was cool to bridge to team mates or not. Everyone was talking about crap you'd see on tv and textbook moves, then I said "yeah but Chuck would undoubtedly bridge to his team mate. Then probably drop him."<br /><br />It sucks when the February and March 10am rides are the funnest part of your season, as has been the case for me this year. <br /><br />I will take this under advisement.<br /><br />ThanksDave Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04475403509478977792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5791205829167373593.post-23754206089536047562009-04-21T10:06:00.000-04:002009-04-21T10:06:00.000-04:00Personally, a majority of the time I will commit t...Personally, a majority of the time I will commit to the break and pull or even drive it. That said, I'm pretty sure that when a team has a guy or two 'covering breaks', that simply means 'have one of us in it in case that break succeeds'. Covering breaks doesn't nescessarily mean working with them. It is silly (in a real race) to help someone get to the line who can crush you when you have a teammate in the field with a better chance of winning, or if you don't have the right number of teamates in the break - like 1 in 3 or something.Chuck Hutchesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18054704262318135739noreply@blogger.com